Output may not help

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I really do not understand this experience. What was the objectif of this experience? There is a lack of something but I do not know what, to be able to understand it. What is the meaning in this context (Grammar acquisition) of Oral Output? What is an output group, an non output group? Input comprehension? Output production ? What was the pretext? the postest? What is the concretly production and reception parts? (writing and listening? ) What was the role of the Placebo control group? What is the maining of this sentence `:The outgroup failed to outperform the non output group? (the input group? ) What is the maining of post hoc? What is a syntacsic processing? (syntaxic processus?- make good structure of phrases? ) What does it mean Form-Meaning mapping? Je me sens une ``cruche`` en lisant ce texte! Johanne

Re this experiment (note not experience as in French!), the objective was to see if asking learners to use the language, that is to speak, to answer questions etc. (to produce language output) would help them in the use of the relative pronoun in English. One group was asked to produce output, but another one group only had input (listening presumably) and one group was a placebo group which must mean that they did not know they were being tested. We would have to read more to find out details.

There was a test before the experiment and one after (pre-test and post-test) and it showed the input group did better on the test. A final (post hoc) re-examination showed that the output task did not engage the learners in dealing with syntax (grammar or structure) in such a way as to learn the structure. On the other hand the input group was better able to create links between the form or language structure they heard and meaning.

I am not surprised. Input activities are very effective for language learning. Any output task that puts stress on the learner will not be effective. I believe the main job of a language teacher is to make the learner happy, to enable the learner to find “flow”, where curiosity is engaged and the learner’s skills are adequate to the challenge of the task.

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Hi, Steve,

This is very interesting! I didn't see a link or reference for a paper with more details. Do you have a reference available?

Thanks for posting this.
Scott

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